So Women Can’t Drive, Huh?
People who brush off idiocy on the streets with “Ah, but women can’t drive.”
Not only is it offensive, sexist, stereotypical, and stupid, it is also completely and utterly wrong.
Here’s a statistical paper on traffic accidents in Jordan from the Traffic Department: http://www.traffic.psd.gov.jo/images/docs/0186.pdf.
As you can see, women do not cause accidents in Jordan, when compared to the arrogance of men.
And no, it isn’t funny at all. Jordan has very high fatal accident rates. Every 13 hours, a person dies from an accident.
When YOU point out to the wrong reason, you are encouraging idiots to drive badly by blaming the problem on the victim. So, every time you are “joke” about women not driving, you’re probably killing someone by inflating an idiot’s ego and your own.
But, the point is, even if there are less female drivers, that doesn’t change the fact that you simply cannot say that “Women are bad drivers” or that “Most accidents happen because of women”, as if you look at the detailed PDF, it goes very much into depth over cause of accidents as well.
That basically means: the women next to you isn’t likely to cause the accident. It’s you. Cause you’re arrogant. And stupid. And sexist.
In terms of not knowing ratio as I wasn’t able to find stats on number of female drivers and time spent on the road (excellent debate point, by the way), please read this thread: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150965329138978&set=a.139428193977.110268.517138977&type=1
Khaled Gharaibeh
July 17, 2012 @ 1:11 pm
well, you are right that males cause more accidents than females, but not because they are arrogant, sexist and stupid:) they cause accidents because they don’t know how to drive and they are wreckless drivers. what i am saying is a male causes accidents because of driving reasons, not because of his mentality, especially his mentality about women:).. it is similar to say that males cause accidents because they are liars:) why would a liar or a sexist cause less/more accidents than others?
Roba Al-Assi
July 17, 2012 @ 1:14 pm
Khaled, you’re of course right. I went overboard with the logic of sexist idiots who make fun of women are basically offloading the fact that THEIR aggression is the problem, and killing people in the process due to ignorance.
Apologies.
billy1380
July 17, 2012 @ 2:35 pm
Men have more testosterone on average
In theory:
This gives them better geo-spacial awareness i.e. they should have a better sense of direction and a better ability to control machines.
In practice:
Testosterone makes males reckless and more likely to do engage in primal and or competitive behaviour.
Same instruction
In theory
Men and women have the same instruction when attempting to pass driving test
In practice
A lot of people do not take their driving test
A lot of women will be instructed for longer because of some notion that they are going to become bad drivers anyway (which is outrageous – IMHO)
I hate bad statistics
Ignoring the style and spelling mistakes of that document, the author seems to make valid statistical comparisons when comparing against international standards but fails to take the same steps when trying to put forward other ideas e.g. he fails to take into account the number of females involved in accidents when charting male vs female death rates. So 10 females die when 100 males die is meaningless if there are 100 males involved in accidents vs 15 females.
He fails to take into account the number of total male and female drivers when comparing their respective involvement in accidents i.e. to mean anything it has to be a ratio. He fails to acknowledge the increase in the population as a whole, he fails to take into account the rise in the number of cars on the road, he fails to take into account that we are less likely to be passengers because more of us can drive etc etc
My point
No point… just saying.
Also
I don’t believe that women are worst drivers.
Anonymous
July 18, 2012 @ 6:16 am
Women by nature can do parallel thinking while men can’t, if a loaded man is thinking of the bad day he had at work, he is more likely to make accident than a woman, and as billy said, the comparison is not fair because it’s not considering ratios, plus, girls tend be more conservative while driving, because they don’t want to have the headache of what comes after the accident (kroka – sena’a)
and who said driving skills is all about accidents ? how about parking a car ?
Khalidjarrar
July 18, 2012 @ 11:43 pm
haha honestly Roba i was reading the article and feeling like I have been slapped in the face the entire time for being a male. now that is sexist! tsk tsk tsk!
Alright, shoofi dyoodih, y3ni you have to pick the right battles to fight. Its ok not to be a good driver and it is ok if there was such a thing as a gender being more skilled in a particular arina. I believe that women make better artists for example. And better educators. and better lawyers too. for charisteristics built in their personality, now lets not claim that men and women are similar, I understand and support a call for justice between genders, but a claim of similarity is a whole other issue, its more like fiction.
So yes, women ARE with no doubt not as good at driving as men, and the measure for the driving skills in question here, is driving skills. How many times did it happen that a man failed to get his car out of a tight parking spot and a passing lady volunteered to help him out? y3ni you know what i mean! khala9 our brains are better equipped to handle this kind of missions, the mission of moving a viechle and imagining where its four corners are and what move on the steering would give the right direction to each of these corners. khala9 its like that! dont make an issue out of it!
Now, women by nature as you and other friends above said, are more careful, men tend to self evaluate their driving skills higher than it is, and are more aggressive by nature (yes, see? you agree that there is difference in nature!) and hence cause more accidents, and there is also my favourite point which you fa2steeni and katabteeha abli:
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In terms of not knowing ratio as I wasn’t able to find stats on number of female drivers and time spent on the road”
and thats no doubt a valid point as well.
My point?
I actually have one :D
When we say that women are less capable when it comes to driving skills, its not beucase we are horrible and its unfair to make us ashamed of it! its mainly because it is true. and i hope you can close your eyes and reach to your still center and take a breath and let my words in and see how it wont shake your center and wont change your evaluation to yourself and wont change who you are and you will find that its absolutely OK if you are not a skilled driver. you are just good enough to be able to commute and thats about all whats needed. I am not a good driver myself. I mean I am, but in spite of my love to cars and the tons of information stored in my head about cars technology, I admit that my ability to estimate where the four corners of the car is less precise than that of my older brother Raed for example, although he has absolutely no interest in cars at all. Its something you are born with! I am sure you can improve it by professional practice, but honestly who cares? :) its a dumb story all together, and isn’t worth your frustration:)
Roba Al-Assi
July 19, 2012 @ 9:21 am
I think you’re being sexist and none of these things are scientifically proven. I’m a female, as is my mother, but we both have EXCELLENT spatial skills, while my cousin Abed can’t park to save his life. See? It’s a person-per-person thing, and not a gender thing.
9Gag
July 19, 2012 @ 1:27 pm
hi, your reply remind me with a true 9gag post, i quote :
Why do girls get all bent out of shape when a man asks for a sandwich? When my girlfriend says “fix my car”, or “fix my computer” I don’t claim it’s sexist. I fix her shit because I’m good at it. Next time a girl asks me to fix her shit, I’m just going to get all offended and say “fix your own shit”. Let’s see who gets hurt more, me without a sandwich or you without a car.
Roba Al-Assi
July 19, 2012 @ 1:30 pm
That’s stupid. I fix computers better than any guy I know.
Khalidjarrar
July 19, 2012 @ 3:54 pm
You called mee sexist and I got offended, I didn’t know why, first I thought because that’s not based on anything I said but rather because I didn’t agree with you. Then I thought that I dont really know what sexist really really means in this context and how am I being sexist.then I decided its because you basically accused of not being just to you, of being biased against you, and that is an accusation I take seriously, as it addresses judgment and credibility, hence I will ask you to open up to me and tell me what doesit feel like, what does it sound like when you read my comment, what exactly in my comment that upset you and made you strongly disagree inn a way that made me sound biased? Help open my eyes please!
Roba Al-Assi
July 19, 2012 @ 4:05 pm
Hehe, ta7sheesh Khalid. Sorry if I offended you, that wasn’t my goal. Sexism means: “Prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.”
When you generalize that women are worse drivers because they are women, that is sexist. I am going to use racism against black people as an example of this, although this is in no way encouraging that transgression as I am as against that as I am sexism.
It is absolutely appalling to make a loose crack, in jest or no, about black people: it will straight away course a fiery rebuttal, accusations, indiscreet insults, fury, shock and general disagreement.
When a comment is made such as ‘You’re a woman, go make me a sandwich’, or ‘Women can’t drive’, there is nowhere near the level of outrage there is in the presence of racism. This makes no sense. You can’t go up to a black person and say ‘You’re black, you should be my slave’ and yet you can say to a woman/girl ‘You’re a woman/girl, you should be my slave.’ Yes, there may be a dirty look and a snide comeback, but often there is just a titter from the girl in question and a roar of approval from the nearby males. What people don’t seem to understand is that women were mistreated just as much as black people, and in many societies like our own, worse, and I’m sure you know exactly what I’m talking about.
You can always say that you knew three girls who were much worse drivers than all your male friends, but you can’t say that ALL girls are much worse drivers. It isn’t a gender thing.
Khalidjarrar
July 22, 2012 @ 2:20 pm
But, but…but….
how do i say that ya rabbi…but..women ARE bad drivers!! with all the honesty in my heart i am telling you that men did not sit in a secret society meeting and decide to make that accusation to offend women. The stereotype is there because it is true.Not three women in my life, all women in the street are not skilled drivers, if you are, you are an exception to the rule! What i do not get is: why do you consider it unacceptable to claim that women, for being women, have better abilities in certain areas and less abilities in other, compared to men. Men and women have different psychology, different ways of thinking, we come from two different plants too as you know, I do not assume that you will stretch your claim to say that we are identical, men and women, because we are simply not. we are different, in our nature, in the size emotions take inour lives, in the way we address issues. The way we talk. our need to share. our way of thinking. our ability to multitask. yes we are different, if you can not agree to that you are being..Manist..or something..i will make out a word to say that you are not being objective. and these differences have been portrayed in comedy for example throughout history, and the way an American laughs about a comedian portraying how your wife would remember something you did last year in the middle of an argument like it was yesterday, makes Arabs laugh exactly the same way because it is something we witness in our lives as well. I am sure you do it too. Its a pattern shown world wide in women. The THING though: is that i do not see that as degrading in anyway, it is degrading to say that women are stupid. that is a generalization that is both not correct and not moral. But to say that women are better at multitasking, or worse at driving, is in an entirely different world, its in the world of facts that everyone knows:) now debating that would result in you sounding irrational. So which one are you willing to risk: ”confessing that women and men in GENERAL (with exceptions) have patterns of being different in their skills levels in certain areas particularly because of the gender factor”,OR”Portraying yourself as being irrational and as someone who intentionally refuse to admit facts that everyone in the world approves because it hurts their feelings”Which of the two above is a label that you think is more degrading to women? :)
9Gager
July 24, 2012 @ 12:00 pm
that aint stupid, you “might fix a computer better than any guy yuo know”, does not proove that other female can, and if you can fix a computer, you can’t fix a car!00
you know what, just came to my mind that regarding that sandwich.. i just looked up the web for top ten chefs in the world and didn’t find any female on the list m8 !
http://slickzine.com/food/top-10-master-chefs-world-culinary-worlds-delight/
BBBBazinga !