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> <channel><title>Comments on: 60</title> <atom:link href="http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/</link> <description>Another Casualty to the Seduction Of Art</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:50:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3</generator> <item><title>By: ole</title><link>http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/comment-page-1/#comment-19760</link> <dc:creator>ole</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:57:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/#comment-19760</guid> <description>This might be of interest:
http://www.foresightartgallery.com have an exhibition titled &quot;I&#039;m form there and I have memories&quot; running through the end of May.Also a picture of a street in Haifa in 1939:
http://www.arabs48.com/article-images/b08415162957.jpg</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might be of interest:<br
/> <a
href="http://www.foresightartgallery.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.foresightartgallery.com</a> have an exhibition titled &#8220;I&#8217;m form there and I have memories&#8221; running through the end of May.</p><p>Also a picture of a street in Haifa in 1939:<br
/> <a
href="http://www.arabs48.com/article-images/b08415162957.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.arabs48.com/article-images/b08415162957.jpg</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ahmad Al-Sholi</title><link>http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/comment-page-1/#comment-19738</link> <dc:creator>Ahmad Al-Sholi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 14:54:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/#comment-19738</guid> <description>G.
- Israel was recognized by the UN, true... under the same rotten politics that run the whole world. A great place for your people to flourish in.- 100 years ago, there were no arab countries. zoning was fully geographical with all economic and demographic impacts.- To us arabs, there is no difference between palestinian or Jordanian governance. We relate to ourselves as one, the bonds between the people across the river is even greater on an east west nots rather than north south nots, taking into consideration both current Jordan and all of Palestine maps. Which makes perfect sense in sociology science.
As an example, The Hashemites originate from Mecca. Do you think we do not consider them from the same medium? Then you know nothing.- Judasim is the first religion and Islam came after 2000 years... The surprise to you is that has nothing to do with arabs, when you want to relate Islam to current countries in this world you would say they are 55 countries with a muslim majority. In our own sense, that counts to nothing within Arabia, we are all arabs. Our history proves the civil harmony.-The Arab Revolution led by the Hashemites almost a 100 year ago was planning to rule eastern arabia, thanks for the european invasion, our dreams were scattered and thus you see the many countries we have now. However, in reading various history chapters we learn that nations rise and fall and takes some generations to move between.- As for Sharon was born in Palestine.. that makes his parents the original offenders and he was just as consistent on the offence. As for Arafat or Said were born in Egypt, that makes no difference, they are arabs, especifically Palestinians.- As for Jordan and Egypt ruling of the remaining Palestinian lands after 1948 war and the loss of Palestine&#039;s majority. Palestinians and all arabs seek the shared existance in all aspects.. to cut short, we do not have an issue of establishing a country separated from our arab meduims, we can merge in any one easily given the current difficulties forced by the european invasion and installment of Israel. At current times, no arab country surrounding palestine would want to merge with palestinian remaining land so not to waste the political existence of the palestinian cause.- Digest that, don&#039;t play smart here, we can tackle all your claims. As human beings, I urge you to surrender to logic and admit the truth. Palestine is arab, so it was, and so it will be again.. If not in our time, then later it is.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.<br
/> - Israel was recognized by the UN, true&#8230; under the same rotten politics that run the whole world. A great place for your people to flourish in.</p><p>- 100 years ago, there were no arab countries. zoning was fully geographical with all economic and demographic impacts.</p><p>- To us arabs, there is no difference between palestinian or Jordanian governance. We relate to ourselves as one, the bonds between the people across the river is even greater on an east west nots rather than north south nots, taking into consideration both current Jordan and all of Palestine maps. Which makes perfect sense in sociology science.<br
/> As an example, The Hashemites originate from Mecca. Do you think we do not consider them from the same medium? Then you know nothing.</p><p>- Judasim is the first religion and Islam came after 2000 years&#8230; The surprise to you is that has nothing to do with arabs, when you want to relate Islam to current countries in this world you would say they are 55 countries with a muslim majority. In our own sense, that counts to nothing within Arabia, we are all arabs. Our history proves the civil harmony.</p><p>-The Arab Revolution led by the Hashemites almost a 100 year ago was planning to rule eastern arabia, thanks for the european invasion, our dreams were scattered and thus you see the many countries we have now. However, in reading various history chapters we learn that nations rise and fall and takes some generations to move between.</p><p>- As for Sharon was born in Palestine.. that makes his parents the original offenders and he was just as consistent on the offence. As for Arafat or Said were born in Egypt, that makes no difference, they are arabs, especifically Palestinians.</p><p>- As for Jordan and Egypt ruling of the remaining Palestinian lands after 1948 war and the loss of Palestine&#8217;s majority. Palestinians and all arabs seek the shared existance in all aspects.. to cut short, we do not have an issue of establishing a country separated from our arab meduims, we can merge in any one easily given the current difficulties forced by the european invasion and installment of Israel. At current times, no arab country surrounding palestine would want to merge with palestinian remaining land so not to waste the political existence of the palestinian cause.</p><p>- Digest that, don&#8217;t play smart here, we can tackle all your claims. As human beings, I urge you to surrender to logic and admit the truth. Palestine is arab, so it was, and so it will be again.. If not in our time, then later it is.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: G.</title><link>http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/comment-page-1/#comment-19737</link> <dc:creator>G.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 06:24:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/#comment-19737</guid> <description>Oh another point.... two big icons in the Palestinian history lied about where they were born.both Yasser Arafat and Edward Said were not Palestinians,but born in Egypt in 1929 (Arafat) and Said(1935).&quot;Edward Said lived in Cairo until his departure to attend prep school in America in 1951, Edward Said resided with his family in luxurious apartment buildings in the exclusive Zamalek neighborhood where he was attended to by maids and a butler, he played with childhood friends in the manicured private gardens of the Aquarium Grotto, he attended private English and American schools, he was driven around in his father&#039;s large black American cars by a chauffeur, and he enjoyed the facilities at the exclusive Gezira Sporting Club as the son of one of its only Arab members.&quot;  --   by Assaf MoghadamIsraeli leaders like Arik Sharon for instance was born in 1928 in Kfar Malal in what  is today Israel.Arafat  was also born in Egypt in 1929 and lived in Cairo until the age of 28 and identified himself until then as an Egyptian.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh another point&#8230;. two big icons in the Palestinian history lied about where they were born.both Yasser Arafat and Edward Said were not Palestinians,but born in Egypt in 1929 (Arafat) and Said(1935).</p><p>&#8220;Edward Said lived in Cairo until his departure to attend prep school in America in 1951, Edward Said resided with his family in luxurious apartment buildings in the exclusive Zamalek neighborhood where he was attended to by maids and a butler, he played with childhood friends in the manicured private gardens of the Aquarium Grotto, he attended private English and American schools, he was driven around in his father&#8217;s large black American cars by a chauffeur, and he enjoyed the facilities at the exclusive Gezira Sporting Club as the son of one of its only Arab members.&#8221;  &#8212;   by Assaf Moghadam</p><p>Israeli leaders like Arik Sharon for instance was born in 1928 in Kfar Malal in what  is today Israel.Arafat  was also born in Egypt in 1929 and lived in Cairo until the age of 28 and identified himself until then as an Egyptian.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: G.</title><link>http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/comment-page-1/#comment-19736</link> <dc:creator>G.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 05:59:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/#comment-19736</guid> <description>Good points Don Cox.The Arab nations are represented by 21 separate countries. There is only one Jewish nation with a tiny country, Israel. The combined territories of Arab countries is 650 fold greater than Israel .Israel became a nation about 1300 BCE (BC), two thousand years before the rise of Islam. The people of modern day Israel share the same language and culture shaped by the Jewish heritage and religion passed through generations starting with the founding father Abraham. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BCE, the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.For example in Safad in the Galillee in northen Israel --- there was a big Jewish community in the 16th century CE(AD) --a Hebrew printing press is established in Safed in 1577 was the first press in the whole of the Ottoman Empire.Dear Harrega --  Israel&#039;s independence was authorized by the United Nations in 1947 -- 2 states -- one Israeli/one Arab.The Arabs voted against.The Arabs lost.my ques to all is thus:During 1948 to 1967 the Egyptians controlled Gaza and the Jordanians controlled East Jerusalem(THe Arab Legion expelling the Jewish population from Gush Etzion and E.jerusalem in May 1948)[and PLO established itself in 1964 .... b4 the 6day war in 1967!! ..].....   why didn&#039;t the Palestinians establish a Palestinian state in West Bank and Gaza whilst it was under Arab rule between 1948-1967   ????????????????????????????????As a matter of interest,there is a Jordanian Embassy in Tel Aviv Israel and an Israeli Embassy in Amman.Anyone wants to visit the REAL beautiful Israel?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Don Cox.</p><p>The Arab nations are represented by 21 separate countries. There is only one Jewish nation with a tiny country, Israel. The combined territories of Arab countries is 650 fold greater than Israel .Israel became a nation about 1300 BCE (BC), two thousand years before the rise of Islam. The people of modern day Israel share the same language and culture shaped by the Jewish heritage and religion passed through generations starting with the founding father Abraham. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BCE, the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.For example in Safad in the Galillee in northen Israel &#8212; there was a big Jewish community in the 16th century CE(AD) &#8211;a Hebrew printing press is established in Safed in 1577 was the first press in the whole of the Ottoman Empire.</p><p>Dear Harrega &#8212;  Israel&#8217;s independence was authorized by the United Nations in 1947 &#8212; 2 states &#8212; one Israeli/one Arab.The Arabs voted against.The Arabs lost.</p><p>my ques to all is thus:During 1948 to 1967 the Egyptians controlled Gaza and the Jordanians controlled East Jerusalem(THe Arab Legion expelling the Jewish population from Gush Etzion and E.jerusalem in May 1948)[and PLO established itself in 1964 .... b4 the 6day war in 1967!! ..]&#8230;..   why didn&#8217;t the Palestinians establish a Palestinian state in West Bank and Gaza whilst it was under Arab rule between 1948-1967   ????????????????????????????????</p><p>As a matter of interest,there is a Jordanian Embassy in Tel Aviv Israel and an Israeli Embassy in Amman.Anyone wants to visit the REAL beautiful Israel?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hareega</title><link>http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/comment-page-1/#comment-19735</link> <dc:creator>Hareega</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:52:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/#comment-19735</guid> <description>Just as Israel declared its independence (not sure from who), Arab Jews fled their home countries and went to live in Israel, which was supposed to their enemy. Some Arab Jews decided to stay in their countries, until this day, and they&#039;re living well there, or more accurately just like other Arab citizens.Prior to 1948, Jews were suffering discrimination in Europe and not in Arab countries.
There are still quite a few Arab Jews living in Arab countries. Bahrain just appointed a Jewish Bahrani to be its ambassador in the US.If Americans or Europeans felt that Arab Jews were really being discriminated against, why didn&#039;t they offer them a piece of their land to build Israel on? I didn&#039;t hear of the British offering Scotland or Wales or American offering California to Jews to have Israel there. Why offer them a very precious piece of land inhabited by other people?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as Israel declared its independence (not sure from who), Arab Jews fled their home countries and went to live in Israel, which was supposed to their enemy. Some Arab Jews decided to stay in their countries, until this day, and they&#8217;re living well there, or more accurately just like other Arab citizens.</p><p>Prior to 1948, Jews were suffering discrimination in Europe and not in Arab countries.<br
/> There are still quite a few Arab Jews living in Arab countries. Bahrain just appointed a Jewish Bahrani to be its ambassador in the US.</p><p>If Americans or Europeans felt that Arab Jews were really being discriminated against, why didn&#8217;t they offer them a piece of their land to build Israel on? I didn&#8217;t hear of the British offering Scotland or Wales or American offering California to Jews to have Israel there. Why offer them a very precious piece of land inhabited by other people?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ahmad Al-Sholi</title><link>http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/comment-page-1/#comment-19734</link> <dc:creator>Ahmad Al-Sholi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:30:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/#comment-19734</guid> <description>And if Arabs control majority of the middle east.. Is that a ground for giving away some of it? Palestine for instance?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if Arabs control majority of the middle east.. Is that a ground for giving away some of it? Palestine for instance?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ahmad Al-Sholi</title><link>http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/comment-page-1/#comment-19733</link> <dc:creator>Ahmad Al-Sholi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:29:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/#comment-19733</guid> <description>Don Cox,
What kind of logic do you present when you say that USA, UK and Australia are prosperous because of their flourishing Jewish communities or population?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don Cox,<br
/> What kind of logic do you present when you say that USA, UK and Australia are prosperous because of their flourishing Jewish communities or population?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don Cox</title><link>http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/comment-page-1/#comment-19732</link> <dc:creator>Don Cox</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:19:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/#comment-19732</guid> <description>&quot;The pretension that this expulsion appeared to be voluntary does not change the fact that it was pre-planned, unnecessary and simply unfair.&quot;That applies to the expulsions of Jews from the Middle Eastern countries just as much as to the expulsions from Europe. There used to be a million Jews in Baghdad. Where are they now? What happened to all the Jews of Egypt?And does anyone think these countries are better off now that their Jewish communities are gone?An irrational hatred of Jews (and Gypsies) is unfortunately widespread in many countries. The Jews can hardly be blamed for wanting a homeland of their own, like the Armenians, Kurds, Poles, Irish, etc etc. The Arabs have most of the Middle East as their territory.The fortunate countries are those like the US, Britain or Australia which have flourishing Jewish communities.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The pretension that this expulsion appeared to be voluntary does not change the fact that it was pre-planned, unnecessary and simply unfair.&#8221;</p><p>That applies to the expulsions of Jews from the Middle Eastern countries just as much as to the expulsions from Europe. There used to be a million Jews in Baghdad. Where are they now? What happened to all the Jews of Egypt?</p><p>And does anyone think these countries are better off now that their Jewish communities are gone?</p><p>An irrational hatred of Jews (and Gypsies) is unfortunately widespread in many countries. The Jews can hardly be blamed for wanting a homeland of their own, like the Armenians, Kurds, Poles, Irish, etc etc. The Arabs have most of the Middle East as their territory.</p><p>The fortunate countries are those like the US, Britain or Australia which have flourishing Jewish communities.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hareega</title><link>http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/comment-page-1/#comment-19729</link> <dc:creator>Hareega</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:06:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/#comment-19729</guid> <description>Simon,
Iran has a goal, to control the region, and they&#039;re willing to do anything for it. Israel had a goal, to create their own Jewish state in the land they want and they nearly accomplished this goal, and they were ready to do anything for that. They fought and killed and displaced the people of the land elsewhere. they still do kill innocent unarmed civilians and destroy their villages to maintain the existence of their state.
Iran may be more of a threat to the US, but that doesn&#039;t make it more &quot;evil&quot;. It&#039;s even more of a threat to my country Jordan but I wouldn&#039;t say that they&#039;re any different from Israel. Just another discriminatory religious state that cares more about power than about human lives.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,<br
/> Iran has a goal, to control the region, and they&#8217;re willing to do anything for it. Israel had a goal, to create their own Jewish state in the land they want and they nearly accomplished this goal, and they were ready to do anything for that. They fought and killed and displaced the people of the land elsewhere. they still do kill innocent unarmed civilians and destroy their villages to maintain the existence of their state.<br
/> Iran may be more of a threat to the US, but that doesn&#8217;t make it more &#8220;evil&#8221;. It&#8217;s even more of a threat to my country Jordan but I wouldn&#8217;t say that they&#8217;re any different from Israel. Just another discriminatory religious state that cares more about power than about human lives.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: rima ali</title><link>http://www.andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/comment-page-1/#comment-19728</link> <dc:creator>rima ali</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:45:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://andfaraway.net/blog/2008/05/15/60/#comment-19728</guid> <description>G.
Sephardic jews are only 10% of all jews, the rest 90% are Ashkenazi jews who are not jews by blood, they turned into judaism 1200 years ago, not for religious reasons but for political reasons only, they originated from Poland and Russia and have nothing to do with this region or palestinian land except for the fact that they migrated to palestine in 1948 to establish israel on palestinian land!! seems that you guys believed the lies you&#039;ve been spreading all around the world, it worked in the west but you&#039;ll not succeed here because we know our history quite well, I suggest you read some history books, I recommend a book called &quot;THE LIFE OF AN AMERICAN JEW IN RACIST MARXIST ISRAEL&quot; it is a great book and everyone should read it, it is written by a decent jew who dared to tell the truth, I&#039;ll quote some of what is written in his book about the inhabitants of palestine before 1948:&quot;At the time, Palestine was inhabitated by Palestinian Arabs and a few Palestinian Jews who are blood related and who had lived together in peace for centuries. With Palestine as their choice for a homeland, European Ashkenazi Jews began migrating to Palestine. As I explained earlier, most were communist/socialist oriented with some of them being radical Bolshevik communists whose aim is world domination. So when you think of Jews, especially as related to Israel, keep in mind that there is a great difference between Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.<br
/> Sephardic jews are only 10% of all jews, the rest 90% are Ashkenazi jews who are not jews by blood, they turned into judaism 1200 years ago, not for religious reasons but for political reasons only, they originated from Poland and Russia and have nothing to do with this region or palestinian land except for the fact that they migrated to palestine in 1948 to establish israel on palestinian land!! seems that you guys believed the lies you&#8217;ve been spreading all around the world, it worked in the west but you&#8217;ll not succeed here because we know our history quite well, I suggest you read some history books, I recommend a book called &#8220;THE LIFE OF AN AMERICAN JEW IN RACIST MARXIST ISRAEL&#8221; it is a great book and everyone should read it, it is written by a decent jew who dared to tell the truth, I&#8217;ll quote some of what is written in his book about the inhabitants of palestine before 1948:</p><p>&#8220;At the time, Palestine was inhabitated by Palestinian Arabs and a few Palestinian Jews who are blood related and who had lived together in peace for centuries. With Palestine as their choice for a homeland, European Ashkenazi Jews began migrating to Palestine. As I explained earlier, most were communist/socialist oriented with some of them being radical Bolshevik communists whose aim is world domination. So when you think of Jews, especially as related to Israel, keep in mind that there is a great difference between Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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